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Patience is a Virtue Most of Us Don’t Have

Let’s face it. Life moves at the speed of light these days, and if you’re a business owner, it can feel like it’s moving even faster.

Patience may seem like a luxury you can’t afford, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

The Rarity of Patience in Modern Business

Why do we lack patience? Our digital world has us moving faster than ever, and instant gratification has become a way of life.

If you’re not getting rapid results, you’re failing. Or at least that’s what the never-ending stream of mass-appeal “grow your coaching business to six figures overnight” ads on my Facebook feed want me to believe.

The pressure to perform, generate leads, and bring home the bacon can overshadow the need for thoughtful, sustained growth. We’re often so focused on immediate needs – chasing the next client or the quickest revenue spike – that we neglect the consistent, systematic efforts that ensure long-term stability.

→ Sounds like something we’d tell an anxious job seeker, eh?

The Necessity of Patience for Business Owners

While counterintuitive, patience for business owners isn’t just a virtue – it’s our best strategy, especially when it comes to marketing, lead generation, and building consistent revenue.

Here’s why:

  1. Cultivating Relationships: Whether it’s with clients, peers, or mentors, building meaningful relationships takes time. Patience allows these relationships to mature into networks that offer support, business, and opportunities, but it takes time to build a consistent referral base that drives reliable leads.

 

  1. Marketing and Lead Generation: There is no magic wand to wave or potion to concoct that will take your business from zero to six figures overnight. Trust, brand loyalty, and visibility take time to build, as do marketing and lead generation strategies that take time to percolate. Rushing these processes can lead to a big waste of money, but more importantly, impatience can set unrealistic expectations that have you jumping from channel to channel without truly cultivating any one potential source.

 

  1. Revenue Growth Expectations: When starting a business or in the early stages of growth, revenue can come in waves and be unpredictable. This is normal – and it’s normal for even the first year or two. What you don’t want to do is have one great month and say, “Great, I made it,” make big decisions based on that spike, and then you’re starving (literally and figuratively) for the next three. Don’t get me wrong, we want great months, but one doesn’t mean you know how to reproduce it, so take one great month and turn it into three back-to-back. Then take that three months and do it all over again, and now you have your formula for consistent revenue – see how important patience was to that sustainable growth?!

Patience in Practice: A Closer Look at Business Growth Areas

In addition to setting realistic expectations and goals for the revenue side of business, patience, and forethought can do a lot for other areas of your business. Speaking from experience, I naturally fall into the “I have an idea; let’s do it NOW” trap that can end up taxing teams or giving initiatives too little focus.

After working with a coach (a coach without a coach is like a doctor who won’t go to the doctor), I learned how to put ideas into execution at the right time.

I learned to be patient.

Here’s what that can do for you:

Strategic Planning: Long-term planning is only possible with patience. Set your vision, establish your goals, and create annual road maps that include launching new products or services, your time off, and other milestones you can lock in advance. This will keep you accountable for the activities you need to do to make that vision a reality while also keeping those “I have an idea” impulses in check!

Client Retention: Securing a new client is an achievement; keeping them is an art. Patience in your client engagements – and giving them the experience they want instead of the process you think they need – allows you to understand, meet, and exceed their expectations. Don’t rush into writing the résumé if they need a coaching session; don’t rush to close a sale if they need time. Fostering loyalty is more profitable in the long run than new client acquisition. It’s also more fun!

Building Your Skills: How to Be More Patient

  1. Establish Minimums: When deploying new marketing strategies, lead generation channels, or even launching a new product or service, give it time. Pre-establish a timeline to gauge the effectiveness of any single initiative.

Hint: Three months is typically needed to see if marketing or lead generation strategies will provide an ROI. This period allows enough data accumulation to make informed decisions and see trends while avoiding the typical knee-jerk reaction to short-term fluctuations or a week of crickets.

  1. Set Incremental Goals: Break down your larger business goals into smaller, manageable milestones.

Hint: Go back to the suggestion above about planning out your year. This will make big, hairy, audacious goals less daunting by breaking them down into smaller chunks, which also means more opportunities to celebrate wins (and celebrating reinforces patience and persistence).

  1. Reflect and Adjust: Set regular monthly or quarterly intervals to review your business strategies, goals, and current outcomes.

Hint: Knowing your numbers helps you adjust your approach to maximize efforts, and a dose of patience will ensure the incremental goals and activities remain aligned with your long-term objectives and market realities.

In Summary

Cool it. No, just kidding – but maybe back off the need for instant gratification a touch?

There’s a time and place to be fast, and there’s a time and place to be slow, methodical, and thoughtful. This is just another example of a time to look in the mirror and give yourself a dose of the advice we give clients every day: consistent, methodical action paired with realistic expectations (translation: patience) will get you the reward.

Turtles win races, too, ya know.

Coach Well!

Your Friend and Coach,

Angie Callen

 

Office Drama 2.0: The Great Return to Cubicle

In March 2020 – much of the workforce was sent home to work via government-mandated work-from-home orders. Companies scrambled to move employees out of offices and into their homes. Many employees did not have the capability to work from home. They did not have dedicated office space, internet or robust enough internet, a computer, or other required equipment. Previously, many people required to now work from home only used or had access to a company computer at the office site and a personal cell phone. Many did not have printers or large/external computer screens. Even if the company provided a laptop for the employee to use at home, the company often did not provide internet or cellular access. The employees absorbed these expenses. Laptops and computer equipment became scarce in retail stores and at Amazon. 

Many of my clients began working from their kitchen tables, bedrooms, and basements. 

Many employees lost their jobs – either temporarily or long-term. They feared losing their paycheck and medical insurance benefits. 

Children were sent home from school to begin education from home via laptops – which meant, in many cases, parents had to remain home to be with their children and manage their education. Many parents of younger children were forced to work around the children’s schedules, waking early to work for hours before their children attended online classes, and they again worked later in the evening. 

Many elementary-aged children experienced a lack of socialization. 

Many youths experienced canceled graduations, proms, and other educational and life milestone events. These same youths experienced loneliness, frustration, and heartache. 

Some workers never worked from home – those in emergency medicine, grocery retail, and other critical/essential sectors. Many of these workers became burned out and left their professions. I have spoken with many nurses who quit nursing after a year of working through the COVID-19 time.   

These events describe Diane’s Whole-Person Theory to a T. Grief permeated the experience, which lasted two or more years.

As a career coach, I worked with my clients to embrace working from home and finding workarounds to the disruption of working from home. Parents unaccustomed to working from home experienced upheaval in many cases, for example, trying to work from home with a new infant or holding office Teams or Zoom meetings in the kitchen with the TV blaring in the background. I heard many of my clients shouting at their spouses: “Be quiet. I need an hour for this meeting. I will help you when I am done.”

I coached these clients to create systems for working from home by requesting equipment from their employers, creatively finding space in their homes to work quietly (one client set up an office in a large closet), and sharing responsibilities with a spouse who worked and cared for children attending school at home.

I also coached managers and supervisors of personnel who became frustrated with their employees who they believed were underperforming. I asked questions like, “How did John perform before he was sent home to work?” If the answer was very good, one of the highest performers. I then coached the manager to adjust to the work-from-order mandate and learn to coach his employee to make his performance just as successful from home. The manager had to change his mind set and accommodate the employees.

Some companies and government agencies did not renew leases to save money and shrink their footprint. Some employees moved away from the office they once worked in.  

Everyone was “retrained” in their thinking of productivity and work-from-home styles, schedules, and accommodations. Many people learned to work effectively from home or remotely. Even basic medicine, e.g., doctors treated medical conditions via Telehealth platforms (my doctor asked me if I had a thermometer and blood pressure machine at my house for one telehealth appointment I experienced). 

In a flip-the-switch, many companies have mandated that employees return to the office in the last two years. According to a ResumeBuilder article from 2023, 90% of employers planned to return to the office during 2024, and 28% of those companies said they would fire employees who do not return. 

Companies requiring employees to return to the office include JP Morgan Chase, Google, Apple, law firms, Tesla, SpaceX, Citigroup, AMX, and many government agencies. 

Employers have stated that collaboration, employee engagement, knowledge sharing, and mentorship suffer when employees work from home. Ideas are shared easily in an office/team environment. Those working from home state they are just as productive and create as many new ideas as possible in virtual meetings. 

Some companies have required employees to return to the office one or more days a week, up to five days a week. Interestingly, I have coached some companies that brought employees back to the office one day a week as a show of support to the rest of the team, who are required to work five days a week; the managers want camaraderie and knowledge sharing. Yet, the one-day-a-week-in-the-office employees do not have a designated office space/cubicle and are, in fact, working isolated in a conference room. It begs the question, is that motivational to any of the staff?

I work with some clients who have to register in advance to secure a cubicle to work in the office, and some days the cubicles are unavailable. Some employees try to book cubicles as many days in a row in advance as possible. This also means that the same team members are not always in the office for collaboration and knowledge sharing. 

Some employers that employ remote workers also ask employees to sign waivers indicating why they work remotely, how many remote days a week, and the number of remote hours. These waivers include statements like: “The company is not liable or responsible for providing internet or a cell phone; the company is not liable in the case of an accident at the employee’s worksite (home), and the company expects any equipment provided to the employee to be returned immediately upon employment termination for any reason, or the employee can expect a fine or lawsuit.” 

I always say that if such a statement is required to be sent to employees and signed, something evidently happened that made the company liable for something that happened at an employee’s home—the employee’s place of work.

When I coach an employee who is upset about having to return to work, I ask them to prioritize the pros and cons of working at home over working in the office. They must decide what is most important: working from home or having no job and finding new employment. 

For those who are insistent about working remotely, and if they know of some personnel in their company who are allowed to work from home, I coach them to prepare an accomplishment résumé to justify their work-from-home productivity to present to their company’s management. Sometimes, managers can request notable exceptions for exceptional personnel to allow them to work remotely. 

The past few years have been a time of considerable and complex career transition for many in the workforce. Changes are continuing to permeate the workplace. How we respond, adapt, and move forward is vital for ourselves, our families, and our clients.

What’s in a Word?

I find it fascinating that so often people will come up with a great idea or product, put all of this time and effort and consideration into making it the absolute best that it can be…and then they watch it fail because they never gave it a good name. And I don’t mean that they thought about it and chose a bad name. In my experience, people simply don’t name things or give them an easy, thoughtless label that doesn’t create any sense of identity or purpose.

I’ve been guilty of this in the past. When my children were younger, they adopted a cat and my wife and I generously (perhaps foolishly) let them name it whatever they wanted. They chose Pud. Why? I could not begin to imagine, but I share this to illustrate the importance of getting out in front of naming something rather than leaving it to chance.

Early in my career, I took over management of a media company where they established a smart program of pre-booking an interesting collection of fixed and unique spots, which had to be reserved on a long-term basis. The very wise concept was to lock in recurring revenue so you started each month with a solid base, in exchange for a discount to the customer. 

When I got there, they were only half reserved and the sales team groaned if you asked about it. Digging into the program, I was handed the log that tracked it, the “Base Revenue Worksheet.” 

This was the name given to it by the accountant who set it up, and it turns out the sales team just took that exact page out as support material. I mean no disrespect to accountants, but if you’re a retailer and someone comes to talk to you about this great, game-changing product that they should definitely buy right now, how excited are you going to be when that product is called the Base Revenue Program?

Understandably, the company struggled to keep the spots filled. When I had control, we burned the worksheet, rebranded it, and moved some of the styling around so that sales would see it as a brand-new product with a catchier name like Sales Success Features. Suddenly the Sissyphian task of selling it became much easier, and spots started selling out consistently. Just by changing the name…

The topic of naming came up for me recently while sitting around the table with my family. My daughter talked about her coffee with oat milk and how great it was. I said that I didn’t understand — words mean things, and mammals produce milk, whereas vegetables and fruits can be made into juice. To me, she was more accurately putting oat juice in her coffee.

My daughter disagreed, so I sought support from the very educated members of my family. I was, however, summarily thrown under the bus, saying that the meaning of the word milk was sufficiently malleable to encompass byproducts of oats or almonds.

For the record, I still disagree.

Nevertheless, this did get me thinking about how much a single word can matter. My personal feelings aside, we can all acknowledge that adding oat juice to your coffee would be unthinkable, but adding oat milk to your drink feels natural and easy. The manufacturers certainly could have tried to market oat juice, but because they put in the time to think of a clever name, Starbucks now has a new way to increase the price of your already overpriced morning beverage.

As you look at your own business and product/service offerings, how well have you done at creating thoughtful, compelling labels? One company I work with was contemplating a live training series, but nobody seemed inclined to give it a name beyond Live Training Series. When I insisted, despite pushback, that it did in fact need a name, they took some time to consider how they wanted to position this offering.

This was during the height of the pandemic, and the name that they came back with was perfect — Thrive. Because at that moment, nothing sounded more compelling than the idea of not just surviving, but thriving. 

The series was a great success and went on to spawn more conferences and live training events. Do I think that this was wholly due to the name? Certainly not — a lot of intelligent, talented people put hours of work into making a great product that did exactly what it promised to do. But the name gave the program an identity, a life, a purpose. 

So as you work on developing your own products and advancing your company, pay close attention to how you’re naming (or not naming) things. Regardless of the specifics of your business, words matter. Because nobody has ever wanted to put almond juice in their coffee.

Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick 2! The Secret to a Thriving Business and Life

I am a bit fuzzy about the most important project I ever worked in my previous career—except it shapes the way I run my practice even today. I remember the project directly affected national security, was classified above Top Secret, and would be read by people whose names I saw regularly on the front page of the Washington Post. I’ll tell you what I learned because I hope it will help you run your practice and manage your life a little better.

Just like that first email from your last client, my project came at a very busy time. And, just like your last client, the general officer who asked for my help had a large personal stake in the outcome. And perhaps like your last client, I had never done precisely this kind of project before. And perhaps just like you, I signed up enthusiastically and agreed to a deadline I should have thought about twice.

When it was all done, my mentor took me aside. “Next time,” he said, “try using this.” He handed me his business card. Puzzled, I just stared at him. “Turn it over,” he said.

There, on the back of the card, was a single column of three boxes. This is what it looked like:

For a moment, I didn’t get it. Then it became very clear: If you want it good and fast, it won’t be cheap; if you want it cheap and fast, it won’t be good. You get the idea. Now I want you and your clients to get the idea too by adapting the model that has served me so well. 

If I had the same thing on the back of my business card, I would print it with the word “Good” already checked. And I would say: “Check any one of the remaining two boxes.” Good is not negotiable. 

I know you’re tempted sometimes to take on a project you know you shouldn’t, but you need a little extra money. That extra money costs way too much. Whatever you write may have your client’s name at the top, but it is your work. It will always help define your brand. Because your work is excellent, those in the know will want to hire you. 

But when you charge low rates, you’re not making enough to grow your business. Because your prices are low, those who don’t know you may go elsewhere; they think they get what they pay for. Those who have little to offer will seek you out, but you can’t do much to help them. And they may blame you for their failures.

Consider the résumé writer (usually not a member of a professional organization) who churns out “cookie cutter” résumés at very low cost. they charge less because his labor is less. 

But his brand is defined for him—by his clients (whose “cookie cutter” résumés keep them from the best jobs) and by perspective employers (who recognize hackneyed writing when they see it). His brand is: cheap. They are the Spirit Airlines of résumé writers. 

It only gets worse. Others in our industry would never refer a client to him. Because they have no new ideas, they never contribute to the literature, you never see them at professional conferences. If their work didn’t reflect so poorly on our industry, they would be irrelevant. That is why greatness in what you do is never negotiable.

While “cheap” isn’t something we want to be associated with either, it does remind us about levels of investment we set and the value we deliver. There are two important ideas referenced in that previous sentence.

First, I never refer to “price.” I like neither the denotation nor the connotation. Webster’s definition: “…that which must be done, sacrificed, suffered, etc. in return for something…a price on someone’s head…to have one’s price, to be willing to be bribed if the bribe is big enough.” 

Also, prices are associated with commodities. Because commodities are always identical, those who sell them usually compete on price. No matter where you buy, that refrigerator you’re thinking about will always be precisely the same thing.

No one—not career professionals, not job seekers, not recruiters—can afford a “one-size-fits-nobody” résumé, bio, or LinkedIn profile.

“Invest,” on the other hand, is much closer to the mark: “to expect a yield, profit or income.” Even the secondary meaning is positive, “to confer an office or rank upon.” In short, our clients should make or save more money than it costs to engage us. That’s a grand thing for us to believe. But it counts for nothing if our clients don’t believe it.

We want our clients to see a return on their investment. The greater the investment, the greater the likelihood of a big return. That reminds us to tailor the products and services we offer to the level of investment our clients can make. And we’re talking about more than money. 

Consider two clients. Both are senior. Both have great track records. Both need about the same services. One is very busily employed; the other is between jobs. Should the levels of investment—can the levels of investment—be the same?

My unemployed client can make a much greater investment in time. That means I have to do less work. His level of investment is appropriately lower. On the other hand, my working client’s days are not her own. I must do more of the work. Her investment is correspondingly higher. The same reasoning is behind all the services we offer.

People pay me more when I prepare Federal applications. Why? Because Federal applications are arduous. Time is money. 

Even when there are no forms, the difficulty of the task raises the amount I charge. Those who have written Executive Core Qualifications as part of a Senior Executive Service application know exactly what I mean. The writing standards are very high indeed. Quality costs money.

Time is money in another way as well. That’s where “fast” comes in. You can usually spot potential clients who want to know, right up front, how much you charge for a résumé. What they probably want is your price for doing a résumé overnight or over the weekend. 

If they could see the back of your “improved” business card, the only word that would blare out at them is “FAST.” If you agree to this arrangement, you both paid too high a price. 

Naturally, you charged the client more for night or weekend work. And you incurred the cost of time away from your family and the extra fatigue that comes from working two weeks straight. We avoid such waste by remembering the first standard: “Good.”

Good defeats most arbitrarily imposed deadlines. Your client may think he needs a résumé right now, but what he really wants is a job. Guide him to see the difference in terms that serve you, your client and his next boss. Let’s listen in:

Caller: “How much do you charge for a résumé? I need mine updated right away.”

Coach: “Are you trying to meet a very tight deadline? I ask because I like my clients to help set the level of investment, so they get top value.”

Caller: “Yes, they said they needed a résumé by tomorrow morning.”

Coach: “I can see the pressure they’ve put you under. Let’s see how we can help them and still get the best value for you. People who want your résumé need your help to fill a job right away. Someone thinks you are a good candidate. He’s putting his credibility on the line when he forwards your résumé. Does that make sense?”

Caller: “I think so. But if I don’t get the résumé to them by COB tomorrow, I may not get the job.”

Coach: “So let’s offer that person an alternative. Tell him you understand his problem. And your first thought was to give him the résumé you have now. But you want him to get the credit for helping hire the right person. So, if he can trade a little time for a lot of quality, wouldn’t he prefer a document tailored right to his company’s needs? 

Rather than being dismissed for not meeting some arbitrary deadline, I think you’ll be seen as ready to do something extra to fill the company’s needs. There are very few jobs that can’t go unfilled for a few days.” 

I have lost a few sales with that approach. What if the caller persists in his unreasonable deadline? You could update his résumé, but you need information from him after normal business hours today. Of course, you want to be sure your client has time to review the draft. Since the company wants the résumé in the morning, that means the client must work with you late today and before normal business hours tomorrow to complete the review. It’s going to be a long night for him. 

However, it will be an even longer night for you. You must give your undivided attention to this project. Specifically, you may work until midnight and then come in early. All these things you are happy to do, but there is an express charge.

How much should the express charge be? Large enough to meet your needs. I hate working weekends or through the night. So I kept doubling the express charge until I knew no one could afford it. Today, a client would have to pay me an additional $1,000 to work under those conditions. 

The reason I know that is a ridiculous amount is simple: I haven’t worked through the night or over a weekend in more than five years! And if I ever get a client who will pay $1,000 above the normal investment, I will do two things. First, I will admit my plan failed. Second, I will raise the express charge to $2,000!

It is up to us to maximize our efficiency. Simply put, we must write truly exceptional job search documents quickly. We can speed up our writing in several ways.

Put Word to work. It’s amazing how much time you save when you exploit automated templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, high speed desktop search engines, unattended backups and security scans. If any of those terms are new to you, pick just one and master it. 

Proofing slow you down? Word can read what you wrote aloud. That helps me find the typos I miss if I am just scanning the file.

Each time you use a software trick, you save only a few seconds. Each time you use several software tricks, you are saving a minute or more. How many documents do you produce in a year? If your answer is around 160, then you might save 240 minutes each year. That’s four hours of your time!

Put your self-discipline to work. Because time management fills many books, I won’t dwell on it. But I offer this suggestion: treat yourself as you would your best client. When you commit to writing anything, commit to scheduling yourself uninterrupted time to complete the task. You’ll be amazed at what a lack of distractions can do for you. Promising yourself time to write the documents means you can promise your client a fixed review date, something that gives her peace of mind.

Put your professional development to work. You’re already doing some of that now as you read this issue of The Spotlight. But I’m going to suggest a better approach. Decide which skills you need to master, then pick just one and follow through. 

Do you want to expand your coaching skills, then consider the CPCC coaching program like the one offered by Diane Hudson. Do you want to tap into the huge veteran market? Sign up for the CVCS certification, the first and only one of its kind in the nation. 

But there is another, irreplaceable opportunity. Thrive!2025 is 208 days away. Check https://www.thrive.show/ regularly to learn which topics will be covered. One or more are bound to fit your needs. 

I know. April 27 seems a long way into the future. But it takes time and effort to get the most from attending. 

If you master just one skill, your practice will continue to grow and prosper.

My mentor’s “magic business card” was something new. It introduced me to the difference between value and features. 

Our brands must be promises of value, never a collection of features. That value rests on greatness. What remains is how quickly and at what level of investment we’ll deliver that greatness. When we do that well, our clients win…and so do we.

The Science of Simple

A June 2024 research article in Science Advances presents another argument for writing simpler and more effective content. The research focused on how readers engaged with news headlines from the Washington Post and Upworthy, a storytelling website. Through a series of independent projects, they reached this conclusion:

“In both lab-controlled experiments and real-world trials, headlines that used common words with fewer syllables attracted more reader engagement. More analytic and complex headlines got fewer clicks, and some readers didn’t even remember them just minutes after seeing them.”

What are the implications for résumé writers?

For one, it is a reminder that résumé reading is often done in a competitive online environment where people are “economical with their attention.” No surprise there. But perhaps more importantly, the study revealed a gap between writers and readers, a “disconnect between what journalists think audiences will read and what they actually do.”

I believe that same gap is abundant across our industry. It applies to my work, your work, and anyone else who uses the written word to address a decision-making audience. And it applies to more than just headlines.

Our Fundamentals team recently explored one of the ways this might creep into your own work. A common concept among résumé writers is to “match the language of the job description” because the ATS will use that language as the basis for scanning résumé content to identify qualified candidates.

We looked at a randomly selected job description that included this phrase: 

“Set strategy for data governance work streams to ensure integrity and quality of large data sets that inform business decisions and optimize operations, influencing 3rd party vendors and internal analytics partners to manage timelines and deliverables.”

It might be grammatically correct, but that sentence received a negative score on more than one readability tool. It is a collection of syllables not worthy of being copied and pasted as is. It SOUNDS very corporate, but that’s about it. If it’s important enough to be included, it’s important enough to be included more simply.

A simplified version of that phrase might look like this: 

“Create plans to ensure important data is correct and useful, enabling better business decisions and work efficiency. Partner with outside companies and internal teams to track progress and meet deadlines.”

That’s much better from a readability standpoint because it has fewer words and syllables, but it comes at a price. If you regurgitate what was originally written, theoretically you stand a better chance of satisfying the ATS gods…but readability is compromised. If you revise what was originally written, you risk that ATS alignment…but stand a better chance of connecting with a human reader. Now imagine making that decision 25-50 times within the same document. The potential upside is huge.

To anyone studying for the CPRW credential or looking to improve the way their work resonates with readers, I wholeheartedly support the conclusion that researchers have once again affirmed: “When all else is equal, and you are on the fence…simpler language is better.”

[HINT: CPRW test submissions are graded by certified WRITERS, not electronic tools or certified readers. Play your hand accordingly.]

Nailed It (Or Not): The Complete Guide to Surviving a Job Interview with Your Parents in Tow

A Game-Changer for Coaches

Melissa Venable, Ph.D., writing for Best Colleges, says, “Almost 30% of Gen. Z workers report that interviewing is their biggest job search challenge, and it’s 24% for millennials (i.e., ages 26-41).”  So, how are young job seekers addressing their interviewing discomforts? 

CNBC (among other reliable sources), reports that many Gen Zers are bringing their parents to job interviews.  “College graduations are in full swing and so are job interviews for Gen Z candidates. But with a slowdown in hiring by many companies and a job market flooded with certain kinds of talent, some younger workers are turning to an unlikely source to help set themselves apart from the competition: their parents.  One in four Gen Zers have brought a parent to a job interview over the past year, and roughly one-quarter have had their parents submit job applications on their behalf, according to a new survey of nearly 1,500 Gen Zers by ResumeTemplates.com. Another 13% admit to having their parents complete their human resources screening calls.” 

Problems When Parents Become Career Coaches

Paul Wolfe, former chief human resources officer for Indeed, and author of Human Beings First says, “It’s good to see and hear of parents wanting to help their kids with the job search and mock interviews.  But parents have to realize that they need to let their kids fly on their own in a job interview. The young person is the one we’re interested in hiring, not the parent. We’re trying to assess whether that candidate has the skills to do the job (on their own).”

But here’s another thing.  I’ve found that, in general, when parents help their Gen Zer kids with their job search, these well-intentioned parents are using outdated tools, strategies, and mindsets.  Many lack the technical, AI (Chat GPT), and social media expertise to be of full value.  Furthermore, when parents rely on information gathered online to help their kids, they discover differing and, often conflicting, advice.  One source says no more than 650-750 words on a résumé, while another says a two-page résumé can contain up to 1,500 words.  

And let’s face it, the technology used by employers today to recruit, screen, and select applicants makes it confusing to almost everyone, including Gen Zers and their parents.  ATS tracking, PDF attachment, keywords, key phrases, value propositions, diversity interviewing, leveraged interviewing, and employment agreements are just a few of the areas that most, parents are undereducated in. 

Stacie Haller, chief career advisor at ResumeBuilder, says, “Some parents haven’t looked for a new job in 10 or 20 years. If your kid needs help finding a job, get an expert to help them. You’re not an expert just because you have a job.”  

Finally, Deane Budney, executive recruiter says, “I’m actually surprised to see parents getting this involved in interviews.  In my mind, this alone speaks volumes of the candidate I would be interviewing.  That said, I don’t blame the kids; it’s the parents who create this ‘awkward’ situation.  I would quickly and politely ask them to get lost, and then I have a one-on-one with the candidate – alone.”

Interview Coaching for Job Seekers and Their Parents

If 25% of Gen Zers have taken a parent to a job interview in the past year, and it appears this trend is only accelerating, this topic must be addressed in all  job interview training.  Consider Gene Marks, whose LinkedIn article is entitled:  Parents attending their child’s job interview… as a manager, I’m all for it.   

Marks writes, “Many have thrown up their hands in horror at news that one in four of Gen Z job applicants, those aged between 18 and 27, have admitted to bringing a parent to their job interview. What a bunch of snowflakes.  They’re old enough to vote, join the military, see R rated movies, and even live independently. And what, they can’t go on a job interview without bringing along their mommy and daddy?

“Well I love it. Let’s embrace these parents. Invite them in. Give them coffee. Encourage their participation. Why?  Because a parent can reveal a lot.” (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-attending-childs-job-interview-manager-im-all-gene-marks-cpa-fy1le/). 

Our Opinion Doesn’t Matter 

Whether we throw up our hands in horror, or love the idea, career and job interview coaches must accept that this is now a reality of the hiring process – like it or not.  Coaches now must learn to coach BOTH job seeker and their parents.  And I can assure you this is not easy.  And I can also assure you that this new aspect of interviewing is just evolving.  There are no protocols.  Yes, for now there is common sense.  But as we know, what is common sense to one can be the opposite to another.

In addition to all that is taught to prepare job seeker for interviews, the same must be taught to the parents and then… the really hard part… alignment!  For example, the interviewer asks a question and the job seeker shakes his head up and down indicating, ‘yes,’ while his parents shake their heads back and forth indicating, ‘no.’   This presents a unique perspective for the interviewer.   

Chris Bevin, communications expert says, “You have to teach nonverbal communication as much as the verbal aspect of interviewing.  And mirroring each other, both parents and job seekers, is critical.  When a job seeker confidently gives an answer and the parents frown, that’s telling.  In my opinion, parents attending interview with their kids make it more challenging for their kids because there are now more moving parts.  Meaning, more things can go wrong than can go right.”

This is not the venue to discuss the psychological and social aspects of why this is all occurring.  But it is important to understand some of the contributing factors because when we better understand circumstances, we can better coach for success.  

Lenore Skenazy and Jonathan Haidt of Let Grow call it, “The Fragile Generation.”  They write, “The problem has been brewing for at least a generation:  Beginning in the 1980s, American childhood changed. For a variety of reasons—including shifts in parenting norms, new academic expectations, increased regulation, technological advances, and especially a heightened fear of abduction (missing kids on milk cartons made it feel as if this exceedingly rare crime was rampant)—children largely lost the experience of having large swaths of unsupervised time to play, explore, and resolve conflicts on their own. This has left them more fragile, more easily offended, and more reliant on others.”

But, Vicki Phillips, writing for Forbes says, “Gen Z is drinking less, learning more, and embracing a spirit of global agency and impact that prior generations could not even imagine. Which raises the question: what were later Boomers and Gen-Xers doing when they were 15, 16 and 17?  As someone who has actually worked with Gen-Zers, I can tell you, the kids these days are more than alright.”  

Let’s Agree On This:

Given the many differing opinions on this issue, there is pretty much universal agreement that, since the beginning of time, most job candidates go into a job interview unprepared or underprepared.  Now, consider what LZ Granderson wrote in a June 2024 edition of the Los Angeles Times:  “Let’s start with employers saying younger applicants are unprepared. That should not be altogether surprising given the havoc the pandemic played on the world’s education system and the lives of young people during formative years. The ramifications stemming from years of interruption in learning and social development are beginning to show up in the workforce.”

My point here is this.  Interviewing was always been a fearful, if not terrifying, activity.  Twenty years ago I worked Kirk Bluin, the Police Chief of Palm Beach, Florida (now retired).  He was a military veteran, a SWAT team leader, and a good and fearless cop.  In helping him interview for the job of Police Chief, I was not surprised that he was terrified of interviewing with Palm Beach’s leaders – some highly influential people.  He was never afraid of bullets in protecting the nation or the people of Palm Beach.  But he was totally fearful of a job interview.  

Fast-forward to post-pandemic times, there can be no argument that Gen Zers face an even greater fear of what was already a fearful activity.  The reality is this:  One-in-four job seekers are bringing a parent to a job interview.  And for employment professionals and career coaches, when working with young job seekers, the focus must be on successfully coaching a whole new phenomenon: job seeker-parent interview coaching.

Job Seeker-Parent Interview Coaching

The protocols for this new phenomenon are still very much under construction (and being integrated into PARWCC’s Certified Interview Coach – CIC).  But one thing is for certain, coaching Job Seeker-Parent Interviewing will be totally unlike anything interview coaches have done in the past, because it requires a whole new skillset that is beyond critical:

  • Job seeker-parent nonverbal alignment  
  • Job seeker-parent job interview goals alignment 
  • Job-seeker-parent communication style alignment 
  • Job seeker-parent expectations alignment

Just for starters.